Interest groups are involved in the court process as well. Three of the most famous organizations that take cases for people for free to defend their rights are the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the National Lawyers Guild. As an example, Gideon was represented by the ACLU when he appealed his case to the Supreme Court and Linda Brown was represented by the NAACP when she appealed Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Today I'd like you to go to one of the following webpages (ACLU, the ACLU chapter in MN, the NAACP, the NLG, or the NLG MN chapter) and look for the information to answer these questions:
1. What types of rights issues does this interest group work on? (List at least 3)
2. Pick one to focus on. What have they done and are they doing on this rights issue?
3. Do you agree or disagree with their position or their strategy? Do you think they are effective at defending rights?
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1. First Amendment Rights, right to equal protection, right to privacy
2. They have a petition to make Medicare provide health insurance to all women, including those that need an abortion.
3. I think Medicare should not deny health insurance to a low income woman just because her needs include an abortion. The petition will be fairly effective but not completely. I think it will make Medicare fear losing business and they will provide insurance for more women.
The ACLU fully focuses on the First Amendment. This interest group works on work place rights, educational rights and racial injustice. The article I read was "ACLU to Testify in Geneva on Racial Injustice in U.S." This discusses how Akif Rahman was unfairly racially profiled on several occasions. The ACLU is taking action by testifying for him on his behalf. I most definitely agree with their position on this issue. I think they will be very effective because they know their stuff on this issue.
1. They work on cases involving rights of the poor, immigrant's rights, and voting rights.
2. The ACLU works with the rights of the poor, they work with Hurrican Katrina victims, and have also worked with homeless children that were denied equal access to education. They also defend poor people's access to the courts. The ACLU is also fighting for poor people's rights to effective counsel. This is very important because everyone should have a competent lawyer.
3. I agree with their position, I believe that everyone deserves someone looking out for them. Even if they can barely afford food to put on their table.
The ACLU works on civil rights such as women's rights, voter's rights, and immigrant's rights.
Since the 1970's, the ACLU has been trying to advance the equality of women. They are setting up economic and social opportunities for women.
I agree with their position. I think what they are trying to do is right because we live in a country where everyone is supposed to be equal. I think they are effective at what they are doing. So far, women have earned the same amount of rights as men. However, the ACLU should focus a lot on the discrimination of women, especially in the workplace.
ACLU MN Chapter
Issues they focus on:
1.Student Rights
2. Voting Rights
3.Women's Rights
I will focus on Student Rights. They are working on cases that involve such things as abstinence-only programs in schools, equal access to GLBT students. They will represent groups or individuals who are standing up to schools and school districts who do not offer certain programs to these students.
I agree that students should be allowed equal freedoms and access to programs. The school districts across the state a country should know what they can and can't do. The ACLU worked to strike certain witnesses from testimony for privacy reasons. The group fighting against the Osseo School District is SAGE or Straights and Gays for Equality. I think the ACLU will be effective in protecting their rights.
1. What types of rights issues does this interest group work on? (List at least 3)
ACLU-MN works on reproductive freedom, immigrant rights, drug policy and women’s rights.
2. Pick one to focus on. What have they done and are they doing on this rights issue?
Drug policy. Their goal is to end punitive drug policies that cause the widespread violation of constitutional and human rights, as well as unprecedented levels of incarceration.
3. Do you agree or disagree with their position or their strategy? Do you think they are effective at defending rights?
I agree, it says that drug policies cause violations of the constitution and human rights along with the amount of people in imprisoned. I think they are very effective at defending rights- that is the purpose of their organization.
Haley Winckler...
The ACLU focuses on the issues of injustice, including racial and gay rights. They also focus on life matters like the death penalty and AIDS. They also cover the basic rights in the Constitution and other varieties of rights for groups of people.
I decided to look in on the issue of HIV and AIDS. The ACLU is trying to make sure that the people that live with either of the diseases get the same equal rights as everyone else and are not discriminated against. The ACLU sent a letter to an owner of an RV park in Alabama about the discrimination of people there with that disease. The people were not being allowed in the pool or the park because people were afraid of catching the disease. The HIV positive people were protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act and the owner was forced to let them become an equal part of the community.
I completely agree with the acts of the ACLU are doing to make sure that the American citizens that are being excluded and being treated unequal are getting their Constitutional rights. The people that work for the ACLU seem to be very informed in many areas so they seem very effective in this area and I think that they should continue with what they are doing.
The of the things the they work on are immigrant rights organizing and legal support, another is working to apply international human rights treaties to local struggles and they are also active in the anti-war movement for Palestinian rights.
Something else they're working on is all forms of racial discrimination. This company is trying to eliminate all it's forms by working with community organizations to develop a Minnesota-focused community based critique of compliance with ICERD.
I think they're doing the right thing by working with the community, that's the only place the problem of discrimination can be stopped. The National Lawyers Guild is doing a great thing by involving the community, and trying to make the problem into a solution.
1. The NLG works on protecting citizens rights and keeping an eye on judges who may be corrupt. Also, they advocate certain issues like how telephone companies shouldn't get immunity from lawsuits and how racially motivated demolition of public housing in New Orleans should be stopped. These are just some recent examples.
2. The NLG thinks that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia should stay away from cases involving the legality of torture to interrogate people. Justice Antonin Scalia defended torture as an interrogation technique in an invterview. In their opinion this means that this justice has already pre-decided any case involving torture.
3. I agree with their strategy. Somebody needs to police the justices and they do a good job of it. This group isn't impartial but does bring up important viewpoints on some issues. I don't know enough about the interview or this justices history to make an informed decision on this subject, but I do know that it was something that needed to be brought up and talked about.
The NAACP works on the rights issues of fair housing & public accommodations, education, and environmental justice. They are trying to move forward in fair education for African American children nation wide. Some of the things they are addressing are disparities in graduation rates, drop out rates, and test. There are more but those were just some of the things that they are trying to address. The NAACP says they are committed to ensuring racial equality in access to higher education. I agree with their position on this issue. I think they could be a little more effective in their defense though.
The NAACP deals with issues concerning the rights of African Americans in criminal justice, fair housing/public accommodations, and education. The NAACP's focus on education is to have a fair and adequate education for African American children worldwide. Even though we've reached the fifty year anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education there is still problems that need to be solved. This education program seeks to find differences in testing, graduation rates, dropout rates, discipline, funding, resources, and employment across America. The NAACP's goal is to ensure racial equality and fairness in access to higher education. This program has continued to have administrative procedures and litigations to make sure that their goal is reached. I agree with their position and their strategy. I think that African Americans should have the same education as anybody else would get. I think that they are doing the right thing to look into such information and then act on it if there seems to be a problem that they have found.
The NAACP works on the rights issues of fair housing & public accommodations, education, and environmental justice. They are trying to move forward in fair education for African American children nation wide. Some of the things they are addressing are disparities in graduation rates, drop out rates, and test. There are more but those were just some of the things that they are trying to address. The NAACP says they are committed to ensuring racial equality in access to higher education. I agree with their position on this issue. I think they could be a little more effective in their defense though.
The NAACP is a organized group that work on cases for the equality of African Americans. They are currently working on a law suit for a family who's son was beating to death while in boot camp by the police officers. I agree with what they stand for and what they do. I think them being advocates for the African American people is a great thing and a good way for them to have equal representation.
1) The NAACP was created to make sure all blacks were treated equal.
2) One of the main goals was to end desegregation and combine black and whites in all schools.
3) To make sure that all people are today kept safe from any discrimination.
The NAACP was created to make sure that all political discrimination in any political, educational, social, and economic equality. Since their creation they have helped many African Americans equalize and combine schools and many other areas. They have helped people in court such as Brown v. Board of Education. They are still working for people in court cases and are always making sure their is no discrimination in any courtroom. I agree with the NAACP. I fell that they need to stand up for the rights of all African Americans. All people need to be equal and the NAACP has done a great job in making sure all of that happens.
The NAACP stands for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. This orginization works to help support change that will create less biased matter to be produced within the American Legal System. Their main focuses are on class action cases and signifigant individual cases which promote a signifigant change among the focuses of the association. I believe this organization is very successful in completing their objectives. By looking at their news timeline I discovered that they are very active in the legal system and have a very strong influence in this country. A very strong example of this would be the bill that was recently passes called the Hate Crime Prevention Bill. Not only was this authored by the NAACP but it was also passed by the US Senate. This bill calls for federal punishment to be applied to hate crimes as well as the standard state punishment. This complies with the organizations motives in promoting a racist free America. I believe that this group is a very positive group because it handles its objectives properly. Instead of promoting its values through violence it uses the American legal system and the power of the people.
---Karl
The ACLU works with all different kinds of people. They work with disability rights, immigrants rights, human rights, and prisoners rights. Focusing more on disability rights, they have been urging the house committee to support the ADA Restoration Act. They also have been helping disabled people who are suing companies for mistreating them. For example, a paraplegic man is suing a hospital for putting him in skid row gutter without a wheel chair. The ACLU constantly is urging The House and The Senate to create bills to help disabled people. I completely agree with what the ACLU is doing. People with disabilities are equal to those who don't have disabilities. Everyone no matter what the disability should be treated equal. I believe that what they are doing is effective, and i think they should keep pushing to better the rights for disabled people.
The NAACP is mostly involved when ensuring people their political,social and economical rights. They also try to decrease racism. They work on cases that vhas to do with racism in schools, the rights to African Americans voting, and unfair housing. I do agree with the way they help people I think their a benefit to have around.
1. I chose to do the ACLU chapter in MN, the rights that it talks about is the reproductive freedom, data privacy, criminal justice, and immigration rights.
2. Things that they are doing on this rights issue is they are having short rallies in the morning. They show that the first amendment protects the rights of individuals as long as they follow certain types of rules. They also protect the demonstrators right to be there and to remind officers and dispatchers of there policy.
3. I agree with their position of strategy because I think them are good ways to get through to people and to help them with understanding the policies. When they interact with each other like that it really helps them to understand. I also think they are effective in the ways they chose because they interact with each other, in rallies and so on. People have issues sometimes with there privacy rights and I believe this could help, its a good organization, I also agree because people should have the right to say what's on there mind when ever they want, there may need to be certain circumstances to keep it so that people dont say crazy things, just to follow the first amendment.
i chose to write about the ACLU and they are involved with
. first amendment rights
. voting rights
. student rights
The ACLU takes the cases of those who ask it for help and decides weather or not they can help in any way,this is only what the MN chapter is focused on and i think that they do everything correctly and i agree with the way that they operate
The ACLU is the American Civil Liberties Union. They deal with issues like criminal justice, the death penalty, and drug policy. The ACLU helps with things like, in a criminal justice case, fighting for people to be able to have a lawyer even if they can't afford one, and they also help protect the rights of children in such that if they commit a crime that they have the right to a counsel. In one case the Supreme court said that Michigan has a law that denies poor people the right to a lawyer if they can't provide one, and the ACLU helped protect that right. In another case they raised a petition saying in Ohio saying to the courts that they have to protect the children's right to a counsel I think this is good for people because they help defend those who don't have a lawyer. I also think it is important that they help children because they probably don't know all of their rights and with the ACLU's help the children can have fair trials.
The organization I chose to write about is the ACLU. The cases they choose to represent have to do with the civil rights of people. Some examples of cases have to do with gay and lesbian rights, the rights of immigrants, and the rights of the poor. I chose to focus on the cases they have worked on that deal with the issue of Guantanamo Bay. For those who don't know much about it, it is a detention center located in Cuba. The people that are detained here are not given any rights and are treated poorly. The ACLU filed an amendment to the Department of Defense to close this detention facility within the year. It will also prohibit the transfer of prisoners being held there to facilities outside of the United States. The Bush administration will have to send a outline about plans for the detainees to Congress within 90 days
I agree with the ACLU's stand of this issue. I believe that Guantanamo Bay is against everything that the United States stands for. These prisoners are not given a trial to find if they are guilty and they have to undergo harsh, almost unlivable conditions. There are some cases in which people are just taken there because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I watched a video about a prisoner that wrote to his dad and was taken in by a bounty hunter during a round up where they believed terrorist activity was taken place. They have no proof that is was this man specifically and now he is living in horrible conditions and he hasn't done anything. I understand that we have the immediate need to protect ourselves and others from terrorists but the prisoners deserve to undergo the basic rights so we can make sure we don't detain the wrong people. Once we decide to close it down all the prisoners will be tried for a crime or sent to countries where they will not be tortured. I think that we need to close down Guantanamo in order to restore our image of “ liberty, freedom, and justice for all.”
The ACLU, or American Civil liberties union focuses on protecting citizens rights guaranteed by the Constitution. They fight to preserve free speech and assembly, and freedom of expression. They work for equality under the law regardless of race, religion etc. And not only under the law, but in society as a whole. They also move for your right to due process and your right to privacy. For example, the ACLU is going to testify that the US government underreported racial discrimination going on in the United States in 2007. They think that the current state of things in the US does not guarantee all peopl e equality under the law. I agree with what the ACLU does, as their page states, our government is by the majority, but with respect to individual rights. I think that often times these individual rights get overshadowed and it is beneficial to have a group available to make sure these rights are guaranteed. I think that the ACLU is okay at defending rights, they often step in key court cases do defend people's rights.
National Lawyers Guild of Minnesota
1.What types of rights issues does this interest group work on?
Immigrants Rights and organization
Anti War movement
Rights for Native Americans
The Lawyers Guild has formed a national project to help support their cause for immigrants. The lawyers also “took part in a press conference on January 19, 2006, to protest the manifest unfairness of deporting Haitian nationals in the U.S. to Haiti”( National immigration project).The national project carries on peaceful protests outside of prominent government buildings as well. The group also provides the option of becoming a member of the National Immigration Project. A membership provides updates and access to documented cases dealing with immigration, access to project listservs, and a technical support staff. By offering benefits to members the group is able to raise awareness and continue the fight against unlawful immigration acts.
I agree with the Guild's stance on immigration. The unfair treatment of individuals based on their economic or ethnicity should not be permitted. However I hold a much more conservative view when it comes to illegal immigrants. I feel that one should go through the legal means necessary to come into the United States. I do not support illegal immigrants as much as the guild seems to. I think the National Immigration Project is very effective in defending the rights of immigrants. The group has archived various events and conferences they have held, and many of them seem effective. They have also been able to pass legislation through the means they are using.
www.nationalimmigrationproject.org
I agree with Haley Winckler. The ACLU does seem very informed about the topics. I also agree that it is good that the ACLU exists to make a difference in the lives of individuals who are deprived of certain human rights.
ACLU MN Chapter
1. Criminal Justice
2. Freedom of Speech and Press
3. Immigrant Rights
Criminal Justice:
The ACLU says that the Senate Judiciary Committee should not move forward with the nomination of Judge Michael Mukasey for Attorney General until he admits that water boarding and other extreme acts of interrogation are torture.
I feel that the ACLU is out of line. Mukasey is allowed to believe what he wants, and the fact that he thinks "torture" is not wrong when used during war, should have no affect on his political career. I have a few simple questions about all of this "torture". Why is it that whoever we are fighting against doesn't have to follow the Geneva Convention, but whoever is fighting on our side is supposed to? Why is it wrong for American soldiers to torture terrorists when it can save hundreds of lives, but its okay for terrorists to torture American soldiers for trying to stop them? Why is it that we have to follow the rules when the enemy doesn't? All of these Muslim extremists should not have rights of any sort. They blow themselves up in attempts to as many people as they can. Sometimes they even strap bombs to mentally challenged people who have no idea what is going on, ant then they send them to a public place where they are blown up. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel that these extremists should have no rights and torture should be allowed, especially if it will save lives. The ACLU is pretty effective, but I think they need to do a better job of securing Americans rights and to not get so worked up over terrorists "rights".
I agree with the NLG's strategy. I think if the government is going to let immigrants in the U.S then I feel they should be treated as we are. If the government doesn't care about them they shouldn't let them come here.If they want them to suffer then they could have left them where they were. There's no point in them coming to another country to be neglected as they were when everyone else is treated as if they're in a higher class.
I agree with Heather, because everyone should be entitled to health care, even if the reason is something such as abortion. Health care is a necessity in our modern day world, and no one should be denied it under any circumstances, especially under the circumstance that they simply can't afford it.
The ACLU supports first ammendment rights, right to equal protection under law, and right to due process of law and to privacy.
The ACLU is at the forefront for securing marriage rights for same sex couples. They are currently filing cases that challenges the exclusion of same-sex couples from acheiving a legal marriage license.
I agree with their position on the extension of the right to marriage to all people. I think they are doing the best they can to secure those rights, even though most states do not allow same-sex marriages. It is a tough struggle but the ACLU as well as many same-sex couples continue to fight for their rights.
To heather:
I agree with your post. It shouldn't matter if she has a low income and needs an abortion or if she has a high income and needs an abortion. I also think it will make medicare fear losing business therefor providing insurance for more women.
Wiseman said...
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The ACLU includes many important issues on: reproductive freedom, data privacy, voting rights, criminal justice, immigration, and rights of free speech.
2. Free Speech: The ACLU is currently trying to repeal the State Patrol Policies because the members feel they’re abusing their civil liberties. Members held signs during protests and the State Patrols said they were distracting drivers potentially creating hazardous situations. That’s when the ACLU stepped in to repeal the State Patrol policies as they felt their civil liberties and their first amendment rights were being violated. No legal action has taken place yet, but the ACLU strongly considers taking the State to court debating that their policies are unconstitutional.
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It depends on many things for me before I can have a strong standpoint on such an issue. The State Patrol policies were a little confusing for me to understand and I feel protests can be distracting, but I also feel that people should have the right to do as they feel. I believe the ACLU has a great argument for their defense towards their violation of rights mainly because the State Patrol policies have nothing to say other than a distraction to drivers argument, other than that they really are abusing the first amendment rights.
Posted by Wiseman at 2/19/2008 10:32:00 AM
I agree with Craig, I think everyone has the right to marriage no matter regardless of race, religion, gender, or nationality. I think that the ACLU is trying to get these rights to all people. I think that what really needs to happen for this issue is for politicians to swallow their political garbage and fight for what they believe in. To Josh's posts, about the Geneva convention, it is not okay for the other groups to ignore the Geneva convention that is why we call them "terrorists" if we were to not follow the Geneva convention, we would be "terrorists." We want to be above the actions of terrorists or else they are justified in their actions towards us. Also, torture is ineffective, people will say anything the government wants them to so that the torture will stop. Furthermore, a large percentage of the people being tortured are regular civilians that are not terrorists at all and the government has no probable cause or reasonable suspicion to hold them. How would you like it if one day the government took you from your home and started torturing you and calling you a terrorist and saying they wouldn't stop until you either died or admitted to being a terrorist? Also, letting the government take people and torture them goes against everything the constitution stands for. The constitution was made to protect the rights of the people in our country. Torture does not save lives because it doesn't give valid results. But it actually takes away more lives than it would be actually saving because of all the innocent civilians taken from their homes and tortured. Also you say "Muslim extremists should not have rights of any sort." but what about other extremist and terrorist groups that do the same things. This isn't about giving rights to "terrorists" anyone living in the U. S. of A should have the same rights no matter what their views are, if they are a Muslim extremist, they should have the same rights as any other extremist who should have the same rights as every citizen. If they attempt an illegal action they should be thrown away, but they should not be taken and tortured without a trial or treated differently than anyone else who commits a crime. If we let the government use torture, we might as well throw out the entire constitution.
1. The ACLU works on first amendment rights: right to equal protection under the law (no racism or prejudice), right to due process of law (fair trial), and right to privacy.
2. The ACLU helps everyone exercise their freedom of speech. In the case that someone wore a t-shirt with arabic writing on it, in an american airport, the ACLU is supporting the man by saying it's only a t-shirt and he should be allowed to wear whatever he wants, no matter what it says.
3. I agree with them because unless it's a shirt saying anything about a terrorist act, then it's just a shirt. This t-shirt happened to say "We will not be silent" in arabic.
I agree with the NLG and cort when they say it is not right to torture while being interrogated. Some judges need to be evaluated in their beliefs and how they act on them in certain cases. They may not be being fair and that needs to stop.
I do not agree with Cort. I think that Scalia should still be allowed to participate in decisions having to do with tortue as interrogation. I mainly feel this way because all of the judges are going to lean one way or another on any case, they just dont say which way. Also, If Scalia would have said he was against torture as interrogation, he would have been applauded and there would be no question as to allow him to participate in torture cases or not.
I also agree with Heather. I believe health insurance needs to be provided to all women, no matter what, even for abortions. Those who are in need of an abortion and don't have health insurance to pay for it are in an unfair position. Many have abortions for substantial reasons, and since it is legal in majority of states health care should be provided even in this situation.
To Jacob. We could hardly be considered terrorists unless we started blowing ourselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible. What we are doing is in our defense from terrorists by trying to stop them from killing anyone that gets in their way or doesn't have the same views as them. And I was not referring to taking U.S. citizens and torturing them, I was referring to terrorists that we are fighting against in the Middle East. The terrorists that we capture trying to our soldiers and citizens of the countries they live in. So i dont understand how the constitution is being violated by torturing terrorists that we capture while at war with them in another country. however if there are terrorists that are citizens of America and we it is proven that they are without a doubt terrorists, then I would have no problem torturing them for information. If we torture terrorists how will their actions of blowing random innocent civilians up be justified, we are merely retaliating to acts of terror, so if anything our actions would be justified and not theirs. You said "torture is ineffective, people will say anything the government wants them to so that the torture will stop", "a large percentage of the people being tortured are regular civilians that are not terrorists at all and the government has no probable cause or reasonable suspicion to hold them",and "Torture does not save lives because it doesn't give valid results". What i would like to know is, where did you get this information, is any of this actually proven, and if so where is it documented? When you ask "How would you like it if one day the government took you from your home and started torturing you and calling you a terrorist and saying they wouldn't stop until you either died or admitted to being a terrorist?", where is it documented ar proven in any way, shape or form that the government tortures innocent people until they die or admit to being a terrorist? But I am really curious as to how many innocent people die from getting tortured by the U.S. government, because i would imagine that the number isn't to high. You got on my case for saying "muslim extremists should have no rights of any sort", and you asked what about other terrorist groups? Well I feel the same way about all terrorist organizations, but as far as I know there are no other terrorist organizations that are very active and I cant think of any other groups that have attacked America and pose a threat to U.S. citizens such as our soldiers who are trying to stop them, our embassies, and even journalists who have been periodically kidnapped and beheaded on video when all they were doing was writing a story. I dont know about anyone else, but I am all for torturing captured terrorists to try and stop future plans as long as it keeps innocent people safe.
In response to Heather's post, I agree with her. I do not think that Medicare should deny health care to low income people just because they have certain needs. The United States is suppose to be a country where everyone is equal, so if everyone is equal, everyone should be granted the same opportunities such as health care. I also agree with Heather that the petition is a great start. They can do other things that will help make Medicare aware that this is a problem. Hopefully, in return Medicare will provide health insurance to more women.
NAACP
1 Ensuring fair and equitable trials and sentences
2 Eliminating capricious racial profiling practice
3 Re-Entry of convicted felons
Ensure that incarcerated and released felons have access to appropriate voting, education, job training and civic participation resources.
54% of blacks and 50% of whites return to prison after 3 years.
52% of both white and black convicts released from jail are readmitted within 3 years. The NAACP feel this is a serious problem, they push for more rights to make the re-entry process work more smoothly. They work to give more right to ex-convicts trying to turn their life around. They focus on making the re-turning citizens feel as important members to society, so not to commit any more crime.
In response to Court's post I find the NLG a very significant organization! It is definitely important for us to make sure our court system and judges are following the rights that we all have. It almost kind of coincides with the organization that I did, the ACLU. The ACLU protects American's civil liberties. In return, the NLG makes sure the courts carry out the rights for citizens. I wish that more people would get involved in protecting the rights of those interrogated, and those who are tortured. I think it's a very touchy topic that many are not sure how they feel about it.
I do not agree with Heather. I think the issue of women getting Healthcare for abortions has a negative side as well. I am not here to say that I am against abortion in any way because my opinion on this issue changes from case to case. If a particular women continues to use poor judgement and have unprotected sex and as a result needs multiple abortions, I have a hard time believing this her healthcare should cover this. I think there should be an opportunity for victims of rape and possible other cases but I do not believe it should be available as a method of birth control.
I agree with what Heather said. I think that Medicare shouldn't deny health insurance to anybody. It is a necessity in every American's life. Even if you don't have a serious disease or condition it's still good just to have in case something comes up and you need help paying to get healthier. I think that Medicare shouldn't be denying a low income woman just because she needs an abortion. I also agree with the part where Heather said that Medicare will most likely fear losing business and they will provide more insurance for more women.
I disagree with Josh disagreeing with me. Not because of my opinion but because he misstated my opinion, i hadn't made a decision on the issue either way because I didn't have enough information. All I said was that I thought it was good that the NLG was keeping tabs on justices. So there!
I also disagree with Emily. The best way to achieve racial equality is to not take race into account. Just let the persons who best meet the qualifications into higher education. Also, if you talk about giving certain races priority because they're disadvantaged, I find that contradictory. If people are disadvantaged fine, give them priority. But if schools are letting certain races in because they assume they're disadvantaged, that's sooooo hypocritical. In my opinion
In response to Josh, if we are capturing "terrorists" or other enemy combatants during a time of supposed war and torturing them, we have committed war crimes. Also, there have been homegrown terrorists that have attacked the US before and caused a great deal of damage and loss of life. This was the Oklahoma City Bombing which killed 168 people. Are you trying to say that Timothy McVeigh could have been tortured for more information about his ties to a radical right-wing militant group and that the Constitution would not protect him from the torture? He was after all a terrorist so would you have supported torturing him even though he was a United States citizen protected by the Constitution?
The issues that the NLG work with is protecting our rights as citizens, watching judges, and keep an eye and fight against the privatizing of the public housing in New Orleans because it will take so many homes away from people in the area that they are trying to rebuild.
The NLG work with cases involving the legality of torture. They think that the Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia should stay away from torture cases because of his previous opinions on the topic.
I agree with their position because it is wrong for a judge to decide on a case when they already have a precedent for it in their own mind.
I too disagree with Emily. Although Racial discrimination is going to always be a problem, the best way to account for it is to take it and leave it out of the picture completely. We all want fair and equal rights, to achieve this we must all become the same race (haha) or disregard race in total. The best applicants should be allowed.
To Craig. To answer your 2 questions and reiterate what I already said, yes, and yes. Also, I would not only condone torturing McViegh but I wouldn't be overly concerned about getting results. I think that anyone who kills 168 innocent people deserves to get tortured, regardless of their citizenship and background. When someone kills that many people they deserve to have whatever rights they may have revoked. McViegh killed all of those innocent people and he got the death penalty, personally I think that the death penalty let him get off to easily, he deserved a harsh and grueling punishment much worse than anything the States would ever allow.
Again in response to Josh, I believe that when America does the torturing, we have become the monsters and the war criminals that our troops are fighting and dying to stop overseas. There is a quote by Nietzsche that deals with this idea: "Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one."
I agree with Jacob. I think that we should all have the benefit of a group like the ACLU to protect our rights. I think that when children are accused of a crime that a lot of them think there is no other options but to plead guilty. With a group like the ACLU peoples rights are protected, and cases can be made fair. I also agree with what Heather said about abortion. I kind of have to go with Grace says about going case by case I think that if she keeps making the same mistake that maybe Medicare shouldn’t be given to her.
In response to Josh H:
I understand your viewpoint,however I slightly disagree. I do not think it it wrong of the US to set a higher standard for itself. We are at the “top of the totem pole” when it comes to economics, democracy. etc. Since the foundation of the country our government has striven to perfect its ruling of American society, and set a standard for the world. By holding soldiers accountable for their actions, the US is sending a message to the nations that torture is incorrect. It is sending a message that our standards are high and will not succumb to the level of “Muslim extremists.” The ACLU is doing its best to uphold the standards the United States has set. Though their tactic may be incorrect ( getting someone fired from their job) the message they are trying to send is not. The ACLU is trying to send the message that the United States will uphold the best standards, despite the actions of others. I applaud the ACLU for fighting for what is right and discouraging the use of torture on other human beings.
In response to Josh H:
I understand your viewpoint,however I slightly disagree. I do not think it it wrong of the US to set a higher standard for itself. We are at the “top of the totem pole” when it comes to economics, democracy. etc. Since the foundation of the country our government has striven to perfect its ruling of American society, and set a standard for the world. By holding soldiers accountable for their actions, the US is sending a message to the nations that torture is incorrect. It is sending a message that our standards are high and will not succumb to the level of “Muslim extremists.” The ACLU is doing its best to uphold the standards the United States has set. Though their tactic may be incorrect ( getting someone fired from their job) the message they are trying to send is not. The ACLU is trying to send the message that the United States will uphold the best standards, despite the actions of others. I applaud the ACLU for fighting for what is right and discouraging the use of torture on other human beings.
In response to Josh H:
I understand your viewpoint,however I slightly disagree. I do not think it it wrong of the US to set a higher standard for itself. We are at the “top of the totem pole” when it comes to economics, democracy. etc. Since the foundation of the country our government has striven to perfect its ruling of American society, and set a standard for the world. By holding soldiers accountable for their actions, the US is sending a message to the nations that torture is incorrect. It is sending a message that our standards are high and will not succumb to the level of “Muslim extremists.” The ACLU is doing its best to uphold the standards the United States has set. Though their tactic may be incorrect ( getting someone fired from their job) the message they are trying to send is not. The ACLU is trying to send the message that the United States will uphold the best standards, despite the actions of others. I applaud the ACLU for fighting for what is right and discouraging the use of torture on other human beings.
I agree with Rizzle when they say "The people that work for the ACLU seem to be very informed in many areas so they seem very effective in this area and I think that they should continue with what they are doing."
We need people who know what they're doing, since this is a very big situation. They continually focus on important things which many people don't know much about which protects those who need the help.
i agree with what heather said about health insurance.It should be provided to those who need it despite what they need it for.
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